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		| Shaocaholica 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Will any of the Speed Graphics close with a 200-250mm lens? |   |  
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				| I'm new to Graflexes and don't get have a camera yet but I wanted to clear some stuff up first before deciding on what model I want.  I've been told that something like a Schneider Tele Xenar 240/5.5 will not clear the door on a speed graphic.  Can anyone confirm?  Will any lens in the 200-250 focal range clear the door on any model?  If so, which model(s)? |  | 
	
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		| Henry 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The Optar 203 in Graphex will easily clear the "front door" of a Century 2x3 (and I presume also a Crown 2x3). |  | 
	
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		| Shaocaholica 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:47 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Sorry I meant to specify that I'm referring to 4x5 models. |  | 
	
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		| Dan Fromm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If a 2x3 will close on it, so will a 4x5. |  | 
	
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		| Shaocaholica 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Dan Fromm wrote: |  	  | If a 2x3 will close on it, so will a 4x5. | 
 Oh thats good to know, thanks.
 
 What about the faster ~240/~5.6 lenses?
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		| 45PSS 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:11 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The physical characteristics of the lens determines what will fit. I measured my Super Graphic which has the same or close to the same clearances as a Speed or Crown.  Rail minimum distance 2 5/8 inch/ 65mm; bed when closed to front edge of lens board 1 3/8 inch/ 35mm; front edge of lens board to ground glass with bellows fully retracted 1 3/8 inch/35mm. Total lens/shutter length 2 3/4 inch/70mm.  Measure to shutter curtain for a Speed.
 Anything less will fit, close may not.
 I have a 10 inch f4.5 Wollensak that covers 8x10 with movements that fits and the camera closes.
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		| Shaocaholica 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | 45PSS wrote: |  	  | The physical characteristics of the lens determines what will fit. I measured my Super Graphic which has the same or close to the same clearances as a Speed or Crown.  Rail minimum distance 2 5/8 inch/ 65mm; bed when closed to front edge of lens board 1 3/8 inch/ 35mm; front edge of lens board to ground glass with bellows fully retracted 1 3/8 inch/35mm. Total lens/shutter length 2 3/4 inch/70mm.  Measure to shutter curtain for a Speed.
 Anything less will fit, close may not.
 I have a 10 inch f4.5 Wollensak that covers 8x10 with movements that fits and the camera closes.
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 Thats great to know, thanks.  I take it the 10" on the super has a mounted shutter?  What speeds are you limited to with that configuration?
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		| 45PSS 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:54 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| http://graflex.org/speed-graphic/super-graphic.html Its in a #4 Alphax with a top speed of 1/50 second.
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