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peter k · Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 207 Location: Sedona Az

Advantages, disadvantages... beside flash?

On the speed now...
135mm Graflex Optar f- 4.7 (with flash stubs).

Waiting in the wings...

Dial-Set Compur Protarlinse Vll f- 35cm (No flash stubs)

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Have the old original flash gun with extenders.
Also an adapter that allowed the smaller, 'more modern' smaller flash blub and base. I doubt if even these blubs are available anymore, so if you wanted to use flash, how would you do it?

Note... since it's an 3x4, I'm only shooting B&W, with the 'focus' right now, on portraits.

graphicdave · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Maryland

If by smaller bulbs you mean the p-25's try this link:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=25+flash+bulbs&_sacat=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_odkw=25+%22flash+bulbs%22&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

or this one for #5's:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=%235+flashbulbs&_sacat=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_odkw=%235+flashbulbs&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

or this one for several different types:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=+%22flash+bulbs%22&_sacat=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_odkw=%22%235%22+flash+bulbs&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

There are a few commercial sites that sell them on the net but their prices are a bit higher than ebay (but not always!)

45PSS · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:20 am Post subject:

http://graflex.org/flash/technical.html for bulb descriptions.

peter k · Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 207 Location: Sedona Az

Ok... so blubs are alive and well, but not for peanut eaters ...

Soooo looking up in old posts, it seems that a 'modern' flash can be used.

I have two... a Vivitar 2850 and a Vivitar 285, but they both have hot shoes to connect to the Classic 35mm Nikons.
How can, or is it possible to use such flashes with the Speed?

I take it the B or T, that is referred to in these posts stands for Blub & Time, or is there a separate use of T & B for flash on different synced shutters?

My Graphex lens has the BiPost for a flash, but it is not labeled 'X'.
All it has is a 'switch' counter clockwise from the flash posts, that is labeled 'OFF, 0, 5, 20'
In the instruction manual for Anniversary Speeds.. p. 6

1banjo · Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 492 Location: kansas

hey peter k

you can use your Vivitar 2850 and a Vivitar 285 maybe two ways
#1 Synchro Sync Hot Shoe Flash Adapter w Tripod Socket like #190616471952
on ebad BUT you have to make up a old post to pc cord!!

#2 on your Vivitar 285 has a jack on it for a cord But you will need make up a old post

#3 "" is labeled 'OFF, 0, 5, 20' "" 0 delay is X

so go Looks at Paramount Cords they mite make the cord that you will need!?

peter k · Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 207 Location: Sedona Az

Paramount Cords, special order, wants a little less than $50 with shipping for a 12" straight cord.

The e-bay hot shoe, for less than $10 w shipping...
when you say:

1banjo · Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 492 Location: kansas

the Vivitar 285 has a jack down on the hotshoe that a cord go in to

ebad #

#170749455585
#150720059311

#150720032300
#150722389033 FLASH CORD WILL FIT VIVITAR 283/285 /

45PSS · Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject:

peter k · Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 207 Location: Sedona Az

Oh boy... hmmm
Well worked out a beautiful concept of how to attach the 285 Flash, but first wanted to test the flash with the speed, by taking a picture.

Set up subject, wife, about 4' away, set up the 285 flash for that distance, which wanted F11, and set shutter speed to 125. Tested the flash brightness, and the 285 gave me the OK green light.
Set the Speed Flash Sync to '0'. Made shot, flash went off, all seemed to be well, except when developed, ... Nothing!!! Just a clear negative, not even the dots showing what film holder it was.

Any ideas?

Yes I had the dark slide out.
Nuts... if you don't have an idea's, maybe being a newbie, I messed up and pulled the wrong slide... boy wouldn't that be dumb. Concentrating so much on the temp hook up to the flash, I may have inadvertently, messed up.

Well give me some feedback before I take another test... thanks.

Henry · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject:

Did the shutter open? Test it off camera: open diaphragm fully, cock and release shutter at various speeds while peering through the lens at a light source.

peter k · Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 207 Location: Sedona Az

No, checked the shutter, it's fine.

Henry · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject:

Mmm....lens cap?

peter k · Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 207 Location: Sedona Az

Oh.. that would have been dumber than the other...

but no, I had focused using the ground glass, and yes I had put in the film holder.. before pulling the dark slide. As I had turned it around to show the 'Black', noting that it had been exposed.

B U T ! ... ha.. was it the correct dark slide?

peter k · Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 207 Location: Sedona Az

Well... I thought about it, set up the temp hook up again, and faced the flash right at the lens, and fired it three times.. light at the end of the tunnel, or in this case through the ground glass.

Yes I must have pulled the wrong slide... ha what a gas.
Now I can go on with setting up the hook up permanently.

Sigh... larning..

Henry · Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:08 am Post subject:

Don't despair. I recall seeing a TV special on the great O. Winston Link, known widely for his outstanding railroad photography (with a Graphic View II, BTW) on the Norfolk & Western in Virginia during the waning days of steam (late '50s). After making one of his elaborate set-ups with lots of flash bulbs, etc., he waited expectantly for the locomotive to hit just the right spot, fired the camera w/flash, etc.,etc., then realized that he hadn't pulled the dark slide. His expression was priceless. All he said was, "Damn. Forgot to pull the dark slide." Understatement of the year. At least, that 's what I remember that he said; might have been more colorful.