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		| persnlm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A friend is looking for 120 roll film for his SG film attachment.  We live in a rural area where no one seems to handle it.  Anyone have an on-line or mail source to help? |  | 
	
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		| Les 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well Verichrome hasn't been made in decades and Verichrome Pan died about 10 years ago. So unless he as a WayBack machine or a Mr. Fusion I doubt he's going to find any in usable shape. 120 film is still readily available.  If he can get by with Tmax or Tri-X  B&H in NYC  (bhphotovideo.com) will work as well as Calumet in chicago.  For older style emulsions similar to Super XX then you'll have to head for JandC (jandcphoto.com)  and get the european films.  There's always http://www.freestyle.com 
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		| newspeedgraphicuser 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| There was someone selling outdated Verichrome film in 120 format. Search ebay for the film. Don't know if it's any good anymore though. |  | 
	
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		| ImageMaker 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I've been very happy with Fomapan 100 filling the niche that used to be occupied by Verichrome Pan.  And it's cheap -- it's sold by Freestyle as Arista .EDU Ultra 100.  Fine grain, likes Rodinal and HC-110 about equally (a little smoother in the Kodak soup, crisper images in Rodinal).  The processed 120 has a distinctly blue base, but it doesn't seem to hurt anything. 
 Best of all, to my way of thinking, you can get the identical emulsion in 35 mm, 9x12 cm, and 4x5 inch sizes as well as 120.  It's the only ISO 100 I have in the house right now, except for a roll of Neopan SS left over in a pinhole camera...
 
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		| glennfromwy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Ilford and Kodak still make lots of films in 120. Look on the B&H web site listed by Les. Though there's no shortage of choices, finding 120 locally can be difficult if you don't live in a major city. B&H, J&C and Freestyle are all reputable dealers. You just have to wait for delivery, which is usually quite fast. 
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		| Henry 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Don't overlook Plus-X (ISO 125).  I think it's still available in 120.  Verichrome was a nice b/w emulsion with a fairly wide exposure latitude, and Kodak sold a lot of it in the small roll film formats such as 127, which fit the Kodak line of simple amateur cameras like the Brownie reflex series, which I used as a kid in the '50s---still have it, in fact. |  | 
	
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		| wlewisiii 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:08 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Not much to add, I'd simply like to mention that I really like Fomapan 100 as well (especially in 4x5 sheets, but the roll film is great as well) and that it's even cheaper (!) from http://www.freestylephoto.biz as their Arista.Edu Ultra film. Seriously good stuff and, if you are so inclined, it gives an honest 200 and acceptable 400 in Diafine   
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		| persnlm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks for all this great info!  This has been an excellent experience on graflex.org! |  | 
	
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		| Top 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| FWIW, I like the Forte roll and sheet films for cheap stuff. B&H has it, among others. Top
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		| Gordon Cooper 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Verichrome Pan Replacement |   |  
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				| I learned to develop my own film with VP in my 1954 Rolleicord. VP, unlike the T-Max stuff, was easy to get good images with. Once VP had gone the way of the dinosaur I switched to APX 100. When that went away I started using Forte 100. When that was no more I went to Efke 50 for stuff I really liked and Foma 100 (aka Arista.edu ultra )for everything else. IMHO, Efke 50 is the closest stuff to VP that I have found, even though VP was a double coated emulsion and Efke 50 is single layer. 
 Creative 200 from Foma is supposed to be quite fault-tolerant as well. [/list]
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