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bertsaunders
Joined: 20 May 2001 Posts: 577 Location: Bakersfield California
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hope that none of you fellas have thrown away your old film pack adaptors...yea those old (so called) obsolete adaptors, they are not obsolete any more....I just recieved a PACK OF
>KODAK TRI-EX PAN PROFESSIONAL 4X5 B&W 16 EXPOSURE FILM PACK<
NOTE:>>I AM NOT SELLING THESE FILM PACKS<< but am making up an email to send out to anyone interested, with all the info needed to purchase! This may be old news to some members, but no matter, I want to pass it on!
Email me for the info at bsaunders1@bak.rr.com
Could have posted this in FILM HELP or ACCESSORIES HELP but thought it would get more attention here.....Bert (just might put a note in those two places also)
[ This Message was edited by: bertsaunders on 2004-04-09 16:15 ] |
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t.r.sanford
Joined: 10 Nov 2003 Posts: 812 Location: East Coast (Long Island)
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Filmpack was the original drop-in instant-load format, and richly deserves to be revived. One of these days, perhaps it will be. I'll believe it when I see the advertisement... |
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alecj
Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 853 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure it's just govt. surplus being unloaded. Harrisburg is a big depot where surplus sales are made. Still, I'd like to have a couple, just for old times sake!
Tell us, Bert - what's the date on the pack?
[ This Message was edited by: alecj on 2004-04-10 07:49 ] |
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tsgrimm
Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 158 Location: SE Michigan
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Think that I have seen those on the famous auction site.
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Micah in NC
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 94 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Hi folks,
I bought three Kodak Tri-X Pan Professional--ASA 320--film packs and a 4x5" film pack adapter from the (in)famous auction site just a few days ago. (The adapter seems to fit okay under the spring back on my Pre-Anny Speed.)
I peeled back the seller's sticker on one film pack box, and saw the original Kodak expiration date (1984). I may be a sucker for buying film that old; then again, I've gotten useable prints from a thirty year old roll of Plus-X film (35mm, though).
I haven't used any of the film...yet.
It should prove a fun venture, though.
Also, this same seller includes an instruction sheet with his film packs. He warns the user to save the tabs and papers in the film pack (I suppose I'll learn what those are, since I've never used a film pack before). He says send them back to him and he will reload 'em!
How can this be done? Would the gentleman simply put 4x5" sheet film back in it? Or is regular 4x5" sheet film thicker than 4x5" film pack film, giving possible cause for a jam?
--Micah in NC
[ This Message was edited by: Micah in NC on 2004-04-11 20:44 ] |
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Les
Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 2682 Location: Detroit, MI
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:26 am Post subject: |
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How can this be done? Would the gentleman simply put 4x5" sheet film back in it? Or is regular 4x5" sheet film thicker than 4x5" film pack film, giving possible cause for a jam?
--Micah in NC
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DING! DING! You win again!. Pack film is roll film cut to sheet film sizes. Each sheet has a paper tab attached to it that's numbered.
Expose sheet one, pull sheet on tab. That will move sheet one around a corner (180° sharp turn) to the back and be protected.
Expose the whole pack then take in into the dark room. Now you can't use a normal stainless steel hanger, Yankee Agitank or HP Combi tank with these as the film is about as stiff as a wet noodle when it gets wet.
I think the Nikkor tanks might work, Kodak made a film pack tank where you folded the film slightly and put one sheet in each of the 12 chambers of the basket.
Early Yankee tanks had holes in the rails and came with long (and sharp!) pins. These were designed for the early Ektachrome process and you literally had to pin the film in place or it would end up in a molten pile in the bottom. I suppose you could use them.
In any case that sharp bend couldn't be negotiated with regular sheet film as the base is to thick.
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t.r.sanford
Joined: 10 Nov 2003 Posts: 812 Location: East Coast (Long Island)
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:31 am Post subject: |
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The $64 question is, where is he going to get rollfilm stock four inches wide? I wish I could find some of that, even if someone hasn't cut it up for use in filmpacks.
An attractive thing about filmpack is that you can open the pack in darkness, remove as many films as you've exposed, and reclose the pack for continued use.
It used to be common, if not customary, to tear off the tab after exposing and advancing the film, which one cannot do if one is saving the backing papers!
I'm amazed to learn that "Tri-X" filmpacks were made with an expiration date of 1984. In my recollection, the packs disappeared from store shelves in the mid '70s. |
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office888
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 41 Location: Southwest Michigan
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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It is possible to buy uncut rolls of film. Literally, a roller of film, much like what you'd see as a rolled drum of paper. It can be quite expensive to buy, but great if you intend on cutting it to custom sizes. Check on ebay, sometimes theres a man on there who sells spools of film like that.
Don't quote me on this, but if i remember right, the guy who sells the pack film on ebay, also sells spools of film like that.
_________________ "Graflex cameras are like peanuts...you get one and you just can't stop." - Me |
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alecj
Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 853 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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A careful review of this guy's ad for his film packs indicates the '84 film has already deteriorated to film base + fog = .19 He touts it as "aged, at no extra charge"! |
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Les
Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 2682 Location: Detroit, MI
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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I"m assuming it was Tri-x but the last of the film packs left the Mother House in '93. |
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Nick
Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 494
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-04-11 23:31, t.r.sanford wrote:
The $64 question is, where is he going to get rollfilm stock four inches wide? I wish I could find some of that, even if someone hasn't cut it up for use in filmpacks.
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Isn't some aerial film 5"? I hear the minox people slit film to size. OTOH I don't know how much hassle it is. OTOH couldn't you just cut 4" lengths from it? That would be 4x5 so a little bigger then normal 4x5 film.
Kodak will supposedly make almost anything you want if you are willing to take the min order. I guess if somebody really wanted to put together a group order then getting 4" roll film would be possible. Some one awhile back was talking about getting a special order of 11x14 slide film from Kodak. Everybody in the group getting a few boxes. I can't imagine a 11x14 slide. |
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Rangemaster
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 412 Location: Montana, Glacier National Park
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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There is only one thing to say about a properly exposed 11 X 14 Slide.....
AWESOME
Talk about something jumping off of the light table at ya! I have played with 8 x 10 quite a bit, but a friend of mine who is rich beyond compare has actually ordered Velvia from Fuji in 11 X 14 size (he paid a big price)
And it is just stunning..
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t.r.sanford
Joined: 10 Nov 2003 Posts: 812 Location: East Coast (Long Island)
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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There is, indeed, a 5-in.-wide aerial camera format. Kodak "Plus-X Aerographic" can be had in that width from B&H Photo, at $179.95 for 150 ft. The material has high red sensitivity, as you'd expect, and information on using it for terrestrial photography is somewhat lacking.
I've run across some grumbling by "Cirkut" users about Kodak's discontinuation of the wide rolls of "Verichrome Pan" used by the big panoramic cameras. That was my last hope for wide rolls of a conventional film stock, that might be cut down to make 122 rolls, 4X5 filmpacks, and so forth.
Some foreign makers apparently are making "Cirkut" films, so I guess all is not lost. |
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Micah in NC
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 94 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-04-11 22:26, Les wrote:
Early Yankee tanks had holes in the rails and came with long (and sharp!) pins. These were designed for the early Ektachrome process and you literally had to pin the film in place or it would end up in a molten pile in the bottom. I suppose you could use them.
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Les,
Well, luckily (I hope) I have the Yankee Agitank with pins to boot. It's my only 4x5" tank, and I've yet to "christen" it. I think I'll shoot some regular sheet film first to get acquainted with the tank, so to speak.
Thanks,
Micah in NC |
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t.r.sanford
Joined: 10 Nov 2003 Posts: 812 Location: East Coast (Long Island)
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I used to develop "Tri-X" filmpack (3¼X4¼, mostly) in an FR tank (evidently, of evil reputation, though I didn't know that). The thinness of the films never was a problem, and should not be with your Yankee tank, either. The curl imparted by the separator flanges will keep each sheet where it belongs, if one avoids battering them broadside with waves of processing solution. Agitation by rocking the tank in a plane parallel to the films gives good results. |
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