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		| PIPERSDREAM 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I am restoring a three cell and cannot find the reflector or the bulb mount? I know sw fans have these things, and maybe a reflector or two?? I was also wondering how much trouble it is to convert it to electronic. There are not too many graflex camera's in this area so I have the word out at a local antique auction to watch for old camera's and flashes if they come through..Curt |  | 
	
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		| graywolf 
 
 
 Joined: 18 Jan 2004
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 Location: NW North Carolina, USA
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:33 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Have you looked on eBay. There are almost always a few there. |  | 
	
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		| Les 
 
 
 Joined: 09 May 2001
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 Location: Detroit, MI
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:14 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Converting to strobe takes a bit of doing.  The smaller flashes use a straight tube...too much to retrofit that. 
 Bigger flashes like the Norman, use a flash tube in a socket that  could be set into a Graflite, and has be done...But...
 
 A Norman flash packs a hefty punch...I asked my local repair guy what the out put was and he said, "twice as much as your standard defribrilator."
 
 So one wrong move with a wire, and ....."CLEAR!" Drvvvpt!!!"
 
 
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2003
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				|  Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:38 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| In days of yore, Graflex made powerful electronic flashguns that featured a large but lightweight head with a 1/4x20 socket underneath, and a heavy power pack that required two high-voltage dry batteries. A hard rubber cap was available with a screw protruding from the top to secure the flash head; it fit snugly over the top of the (reflectorless) "Graflite" gun. This was a practical setup that allowed you to retain the use of the solenoid and the "Focuspot." 
 I have no idea whether the batteries are still available (but I bet someone on this site knows). I've used the cap to mount a rather heavy Quantum "Qflash" on a "Graflite," and the thing showed no tendency to fall off. One of these years, I propose to make a similar metal cap with a setscrew and better provision for preventing the gun from twisting from side to side.
 
 The "Qflash" is a well-designed flashgun, and the rechargeable "Turbo" rechargeable battery packs are very good. But it's not ideal for balancing atop a three-cell battery box, and I'd be interested in knowing whether anyone has found a modern electronic flash designed more like the old "Stroboflash I."
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:43 am    Post subject: |   |  
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
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		| Henry 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thank you [thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you], t.r! 
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		| alecj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:15 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The last time I looked, Lumedyne offered the "cap", in metal, referred to above.  Graflex offered it in either aluminum or rubber, and called it a "Battery Case Adapter".  They are very useful. 
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:09 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Sorry about that! "I blows in straight, but it comes out boogie-woogie"... 
 Does anyone know of a modern rechargeable battery-pack for the early "Stroboflash" guns?
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		| Henry 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Hey, t.r., as a retired musician I can relate to that boogie-woogie thing. 
 Actually, I was a trombone player---the "musician" part is debatable.
 
 And according to the string section, a retired trombone player is the best kind---next to maybe a deceased one. ;8}
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		| Les 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:48 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| not that i'm aware of.  The Stobo IV was a 200ws output  I believe, about the same as a Metz 60Ct series or a Norman 200c and what ever Lumedyne makes.   The latter two use the 1/4 20 screw head idea.   I have a Norman 400b and it weighs a bit more than a stobo IV.  In theory it's possible to put the tube of a NOrman in the socket area of a Graflite and re wire the Gralfite so it fires. I haven't had the nerve to play with 400v jsut yet though. 
 new 510v batteries (well they claim they are new) are around $85-$90 each.
 
 
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