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snowcat
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Posts: 5
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:47 pm   Post subject: vertical lines on 4x5sheet

Hi,
I made my first shots with a speed graphic. Unfortunately I discoverd 2 vertical lines on my processed sheet. They are at 1cm from each border. The sheet was not correctly inserted. The emulsion was at the wrong side. Would that be the reason? It was a Ilford delta 100 sheet. Some say it the lens board. Other say it's the holder? Couls somebody help me?
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11165316
Les
Joined: 09 May 2001
Posts: 2682
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:32 pm

You've got some irregular dense area near the light trap as well (right side). Without seeing your set up with the film holder and dev tanks, it's hard to say, but I have to wonder if it isn't a processing error.

It can't be the lens board.
pv17vv
Joined: 22 Dec 2001
Posts: 255
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:44 pm

Dear Compatriot 8),
Since you put the sheet the wrong way, it is irrelevant to guess what happened.
Do another pic with the sheet correctly inserted and tell us.
Cheers.
G
snowcat
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Posts: 5
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:47 pm   Post subject: Graflex 4x5 sheet

Thank you guys! I'll start doing it the right way and w'ell see :D
snowcat
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Posts: 5
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:58 am   Post subject: vertical lines on film

Dear all,
I loaded the sheet in the right way... but then again, those lines appear. :( . Does any one have an idea?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11662259

Pierre
45PSS
Joined: 28 Sep 2001
Posts: 4081
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:13 pm

How was the film processed?
1banjo
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Posts: 492
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:56 am

hey Pierre
HOW BLACK is the inside of your camera some times if
you have some thing shinney on the inside you can get a
Ghost Reflection ! get out some flat black pant & go to work
on any thing shinney!
banjo
pv17vv
Joined: 22 Dec 2001
Posts: 255
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:42 am

This is what I thought too.
The lines are much too thin to be a bellows/holder light leak IMHO.
snowcat
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Posts: 5
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:01 am

45PSS wrote:
How was the film processed?
It couldn't be a processing problem. Both sheets were processed by different persons.
45PSS
Joined: 28 Sep 2001
Posts: 4081
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:23 am

Different film holders also? Same lens/shutter?

The lines seem too consistent to be reflections but I cannot rule that out either. In a darkroom with the light off, the focus panel removed, bellows fully extended and the or one of the lens/shutter used in the questionable photos attached put a 2 AA cell mini mag flash light or similar inside the bellows and look for light coming from around the shutter and or lens board. Next remove the lens board and reinstall the focus panel, install a film holder, retract the bellows only enough to easily shine the flash light around the edges of the back and film holder and check for any hint of light coming from around the back or film holder. Weak light leaks will look like dim yellow dots or streaks, strong ones will look white.

I have had pin holes in bellows put secondary exposures on the film. Light leaks do not always cause flair like streaks.
snowcat
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Posts: 5
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:59 am   Post subject: vertical lines... the answer

Dear collegues,

I think I found the reason of those vertical lines on the sheets. I used another lens and the lines didn't appear. They might have been some sort of reflection of the camera's rail through the lens I used.

Thank you all for your inputs in that difficult question.
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