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vincent
Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 13
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:24 pm   Post subject: design of Graflex...just curious

Was the Graflex designed specifically for the press market? If so, why were movements included when most press work appears to have been hand held and grab shots. The camera would have been lighter and cheaper without the movements, yes?
1banjo
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Posts: 492
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:47 pm

hey vincent
I thank most of the movements is to let you use wide angle lens with the
dropping the bed & rise/ backward tilt the only other is side shaft
mostly straight forward hand held and grab shots
banjo
Les
Joined: 09 May 2001
Posts: 2682
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:57 pm

That depends on the model. I don't think the Top Handle Speed was at all, but the press corps adopted it because it was lighter and faster than a Press Graflex.

The Pre-Ann was definitely a press camera, and it has the least amount of movement, you even need an attachment to shoot 90mm lenses without the bed showing in the shot. They added rise because its just as easy to punch an oval hole in sheet metal as it is a round one, and if you look at the pretty plate cameras they made before the Speed (RB Cycle Graphic, etc) rise is pretty standard in this kind of camera.

By the time the Anniversary rolls around, it's a press camera plus it's good enough for every day press work, plus the occasional architectural shot.

The Pacemaker added more (mainly tilts), because it's post war euphoria and everybody expects more.

The Super added more swings and shifts because by 1958 the Press Corps had moved onto the TLR, with some Leica and Contax thrown in there for good measure.
glennfromwy
Joined: 29 Nov 2001
Posts: 903
PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:57 am

The Speed Graphic was always much more than a press camera to be carried by news reporters. Many, if not most, ad agencies, fashion photgraphers, etc. used them. Many were used hand held because of the very versatile design. Portrait photographers usually had them on a tripod, either in a studio or on location, as did product photographers and others who demanded maximum sharpness working with artificial light. A lot of great architecture and interior photos have been taken with the Speed, despite the lack of movements. The list of uses is endless.
BrianShaw
Joined: 24 Dec 2006
Posts: 71
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:42 pm

It is very common in product design to either be versatile or highly-specialized. Graflex smartly opted for designing with a limited amount of versatility. Press photography, by its essential nature, is versatile. (as Glenn so aptly said before me)
IanG
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
Posts: 74
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:14 pm

Remember taht the original Reflex Graflex's were similar to earlier European camera's from a whole variety of manufacturers, which sometimes more features.

The Graphics where made to be lighter than many European press cameras but that meant cutting back on features like revolving backs and movements.

But there was a major change in Press work in Europe in the 1930's with a switch to smaller formats, and the rise of Pictorial News Magazines first in Germany and as refugees led Hitler the UK and and this type of change took place later in the US, and more as a consequence of reportage of WWII.

So during and after the war the way images were used by the US media changed, the single image was being replaced by the photo-story, and camera's needed to be more flexible.

The pre-WWII (1938/9 Linhof was a fore taste of the way Press camera's would change, but even that is old fashioned in design compared to the Swiss Kern Bijou cameras of the late 1920's.

So the Pacemaker Speed & Crown offered more, but in reality they should have gone further and introduced the Super Graphic's far earlier.

Ian
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