hello all,
i saw this camera online, seller said that he bought it from the Razzledog, Australia.

http://picasaweb.google.com/DoctorIKnow/RoidPics#

i wonder if it's a grafloc/graflok back? i wonder if one can use 4x5 pack film back with it?

thanks!

It looks as if it would fit International/Graflok film holders, but it is cut down to suit double sided film holders only. It lacks the slide-down rails, and only has light clamps in place of the spring back. That is, it won't hold rail held accessories (like Graflex 23 roll film backs), and it would be rather scary to use it with heavy, expensive slide-in holders like sinar roll film backs.

Current Razzles have a more versatile back.

As to pack film backs: They are thick slide under and/or rail held - neither would do with that back.

Sevo

Since Kodak last made film packs more than 16 years ago, the real question is, What are you doing with a film pack adapter?

and I agree with sevo, it's designed to hold typical Graphic / Riteway / Lisco film holders, but not much else without modification.

Which come to think of it, it wouldn't be difficult to glue a block of wood to your film pack adapter to make it work.

Les

i just wonder if i can use quickload holder and 4x5 pack film holder?
as these are the 2 films i'm using now?
thanks Les and sevo!

A film pack (used in the film pack adapter) is 12 sheets of flexible roll film that's been cut into 4x5 sheets and had a longish piece of paper attached to it. when you load the film pack, there are twelve tabs sticking out on the left, similar to 600 series polaroid, though it only has one at a time.

When you shoot the first sheet, you pull the tab and that pulls the exposed sheet around to the back of the pack, hence the need for the film to be flexible.

compare that to a Quickload sheet of film, which is a standard sheet of 4x5 film on a thick base that's glued to a paper back and housed in a paper envelope and you can quickly see the two systems, designed about 70 years apart and completely incompatible.

but the good side is, the camera in question would probably hold a Quickload holder or even a Polaroid 545 holder.

lamb wrote:

i just wonder if i can use quickload holder and 4x5 pack film holder? as these are the 2 films i'm using now?

I'm quite positive they are not - as Les pointed out, pack film has been cancelled ages ago. Nowadays it is even less possible to use it than glass plates or daguerrotypes, as it is a dead industrial product for which there is no home-made or small industry substitute.

You may be referring to Polaroid/Fuji instant film pack holders. These are designed for either slider or wide spring back mounting, while the camera back only has clamps as a substitute for narrow spring back mounting. You might have to stick on a bit of wood or plastics to give the clamps a better hold on the (half-height, single sheet) frame of the Polaroid holders.

Quickload holders will fit easily, as they have the same form factor as the double side holders for which that back was designed.

thanks! i think i've got what i need!
you two are really helpful!
thanks again!