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taylorpjuk
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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Location: Wilmslow. UK
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 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: Roll film back -dumb questions! |
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I've searched the archives but can't find a solution so:
I've got a 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 with the Spring back, I would like to fit a Graflex roll film back; where could I source the Spring Kit, catalogue # 9295 and also a type 23 film holder catalogue # 1147. I'm based in the UK so would proably have to ship these in from the US.
I've seen reference on US site to a 3 x 2 camera, is this just shorthand for the camera I have, or is it a different film size.
Grateful for any help. 
Pete Taylor. |
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Les
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Since most computers have done away with the half and quarter key that most typewriters have, people have truncated the format to whole numbers sometimes interchanging centimeters and inches..
So yes a 2x3 camera is really a 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 camera, and a Mamiya 6x7 back will fit your 2x3 Pacemaker if it had a Graflok back.
You've also done your homework and found there are two spring kits, one for the 2x3 cameras and one for the 3x4 and 4x5, err 3 1/4 x 4 1/4
The best place to find a spring kit also known as hen's teeth are hen houses, also known as Ebay. Yes the US site will probably have more, but a lot of Graflex stuff got shipped over there as well. Keep a search going.
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Dan Fromm
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Pete, I suspect my memory may be failing but I vaguely recall a discussion on this board of a DIY spring kit. I don't like the search function, but if you're braver than I am you might ask it to look for you.
You might also throw in the towel and look for a 2x3 Adapt-A-Roll 620. There's a discussion of them some where in the Speed Graphic FAQ. IMO using an AAR has some advantages over using a fixed roll holder. |
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willysmb
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taylorpjuk
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Hey folks, thanks for the rapid responses; I'll follow them up. Never heard of the Adapt-a-roll, looks like an interesting concept. Presumably this pre-dates the other roll-holders?
Thanks,
Pete. |
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Dan Fromm
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| Late 1940s, I think. Its spiritual heir, the Calumet/Cambo C2, is still being made, but only for 4x5 cameras. |
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45PSS
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Les
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| taylorpjuk wrote: | Hey folks, thanks for the rapid responses; I'll follow them up. Never heard of the Adapt-a-roll, looks like an interesting concept. Presumably this pre-dates the other roll-holders?
Thanks,
Pete. |
Or just before. Adaptarolls aren't perfect, by design it will make rangefinder focusing without a tripod painful. (the body of the holder will be in your face)
Also it was originally designed for 620 film. You can load a 120 roll of film but you'll need a 620 spool for a take up. Want to shoot more than one roll before you head to the darkroom, better start looking for 620 spools.
Now opinions differ on this, but the counter is advanced by a friction roller, if it likes to slip, then your last photo may be a half frame image. Some people swear that isn't a problem, others claim it's the achilles heel of the back...they never work.
I can't come up with the name right now, but somebody did make a stamped sheet metal roll back where the spools ended up on the left and right side of the ground glass. One of the chambers was removable. I'm guessing you loaded the film in the left chamber threaded the paper through the platen, inserted the holder into the camera, then added the take up spool and chamber on the right side. I've seen these but never tested them. It might be that it was a great idea but suffered from light leaks and poor film flatness as it was just sheet metal.
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bertsaunders
Joined: 20 May 2001
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: roll back on spring back |
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The kits are very scarce...I have a drawing for making a set!
Email me at
bsaunders1@bak.rr.com
Have a nice day........Bert |
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