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Rh-50 and 70mm in general
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Nick



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Rh-50 coming my way. I've got 100feet of 70mm film. I don't have any cassettes. Anybody know of a source of reasonable priced ones?
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Nick



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it came today. Does anybody know of an online manual for this back?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2003-07-30 10:23, Nick wrote:
Well it came today. Does anybody know of an online manual for this back?

Thanks


Try http://www.southbristolviews.com
at the bottom left menu is "Graflex Manuals".
Hope it helps


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Nick



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I managed to figure out the magic switch after I posted-)) That manual on the website isn't for the Graflex back is it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya know, that's a good question? I never paid attention to it because I had no interest in a 70mm back. Doesn't look like it does it? Maybe we could get Harry to comment?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it is not a Graflex back. This is a Keith back which happens to fit a Graphic camera. The backs offered by Graflex were made for either XL or 4x5 use accepting only the 15 ft. cassettes. You'll note from the loading instructions this back accepts the long [100 ft.] rolls. These backs for designed for uses like school photography, etc.

The Graflex backs are much more compact.
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Nick



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And it looks like if I unscrew the ground glass from the back I can rig something up to make it fit the camera. Not going to be quick to use but then that's okay.
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worldphoto



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Keith roll film magazine may be used on any camera equipped with a 4" x 5" Graflok back or a back which accepts 4 x 5 Graflok accessories. The take-up spool for my Keith is 93mm diameter ends, 24mm diameter take-up dimension and 70mm wide. The spool is made by Kodak, Kodak Film No. 10 Spool-70mm.
B.H. Photo still has the film. I suggest you call them to find out who develops that size film and call them for an extra spool or cassette. Also, try your local area.
Harry
Kodak is also a possibility. They are out there because someone is using the 70mm film!

The above mentioned spool must be for the 100 foot film roll because there is only about 1.0 mm clearance between the spool ends and magazine wall at one point. Please keep us posted!

A little more info: The Keith frame size is 6cm x 8.4cm,..... Just a little larger than the 23 Graphic holder for 120 film... which is 5.8cm x 8.3cm. That is why the Keith stays in storage and I use 120 film with my 2x3 backs.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question... Has anyone tried using another maker's cassette in their 70mm magazine? The Hasselblad cassette looks very similar to the ones available now on eBay. The auction I'm mentioning has a starting price of more than $900.00.
Harry
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2003-10-01 09:21, worldphoto wrote:
Question... Has anyone tried using another maker's cassette in their 70mm magazine? The Hasselblad cassette looks very similar to the ones available now on eBay. The auction I'm mentioning has a starting price of more than $900.00.
Harry


Aren't all 70mm cassettes the same? I've got Kodaks in my rh50. Kodak and the other film companies used to sell pre-loaded 70mm film so I can't see the cassettes being different. The only issue I've heard of is the type of film that you can use but I thought the cassettes are the same. No?

$900 for what?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick
That is great that you found the cassettes for your RH-50, and there is a standard cassette.
The eBayer mentioned is selling off all his medium format gear. It's still an unreasonable price.
Harry

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alecj



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Nick, those cassettes are all interchangable. They came from Kodak, Hasselblad, and, before that, Linhof. I suspect Kodak was the manufacturer.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a graflex xlrf and managed to get a great deal on 3 RH50 backs with film cassettes included. BUT---the backs don't have the necessary part for mounting directly on the XLRF body. The part I need looks like a frame with the 4 steel pins that mesh with the camera body. If anyone has one or more of these (or even knows what I'm talking about) any help would be appreciated. Thanks ahead of time.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you are looking for is called an xl Graflok Back. They offered it in two versions: #7304 w/o the focusing panel, and #7305 with.

Check around. They are out there. Pacific Rim often has them, as well as MidWest Photo.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thansk for the part numbers and I'll look into it but my XL already has a graflok back attached. This back accepts standard RH film backs. But it seems to me that the graflok back is removed from the XL, and then the RH50 is mounted directly onto the camera, in exactly the same way as the polaroid is mounted to the XL(and different from the other RH backs). The "rack" I refer to screws onto the film back, and mounts onto the camera body in the same way the graflok back does--4 pins that are locked into place. Thansk again.
Matt
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