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47mm f/8 on a Century Graphic?

 
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dante



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... my Brooks Veriwide has seen better days, and I was thinking that it might be fun to remount the lens (with focusing helicoid - equipped with DOF scales) to a CG lens board on a Century Graphic.

I have surmised that the RF could not be adjusted to that focal length, but since the lens would have a scale-focus facility, I could just leave it for a 100mm lens. I also figure that I could add a second set of infinity stops behind the 100mm ones for the 47mm lens.

Does anyone know if the bed of the CG would get picked up by the lens (even if the bed were dropped), which has a 95 degree coverage?

Or am I on drugs in thinking any of this would work?

Thanks
Dante
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Les



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We at the helpboard haven't gotten into drug testing so your secret is safe with us.

I don't have a Century but Marv Olsen aka Gooey Duck on ebay has 47mm mounted on a 4x5 Crown and was able to use it, granted with a 6x9 holder, so I think you'd be safe with a
Century.
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Dan Fromm



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2002-12-28 11:10, dante wrote:
Well... my Brooks Veriwide has seen better days, and I was thinking that it might be fun to remount the lens (with focusing helicoid - equipped with DOF scales) to a CG lens board on a Century Graphic.

I have surmised that the RF could not be adjusted to that focal length, but since the lens would have a scale-focus facility, I could just leave it for a 100mm lens. I also figure that I could add a second set of infinity stops behind the 100mm ones for the 47mm lens.

Does anyone know if the bed of the CG would get picked up by the lens (even if the bed were dropped), which has a 95 degree coverage?

Or am I on drugs in thinking any of this would work?

Thanks
Dante


You'll have to drop the bed. It has to be dropped for anything much under 80 mm.

Why be a piker and use only a 47? That's a very long focus lens for a Century.

One poster here uses a 35/5.6 Apo Grandagon on his Century. I use a 38/4.5 Biogon on mine.


The Apo Grandagon covers 125 mm, but according to the guy who's reported on his, even on 2x3 there's significantly less illumination off center. Needs a center filter. The 38 Biogon, on the other hand, doesn't cover 2x3, its circle is around 84 mm, but what it covers it illuminates evenly and without distortion.

My Biogon is on a board with no helicoid and for me focusing on the ground glass isn't that great a burden. Keeping the camera level to avoid converging verticals requires a tripod of a Hasselblad SWC-style viewfinder.

At the risk of severe punishment for telling you, I have a couple of 38/4.5 Biogons that need to be remounted before they can be used at all. I'll sooner or later put one of them up on the great auction site. Hi, Leigh!

Cheers,

Dan
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alecj



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I bought the pieces and put together a Brooks Veriwide 100, I had a 47mm f5.6 SA which I used on my Century, so I have some experience with this. The first problem I see with your proposition is I don't think you'll be able to focus the lens using the helical. I had mine mounted on a flat board. In use, after dropping the board, I recall the lens standard was attached BEHIND the joint in the bed. Anything further than that from the film plane wouldn't work. The board did not get in the way once dropped.

Also, there was a problem with the infinity stops. I talked to Graflex [they were still in business then] and they suggested mounting only ONE infinity stop on the BACKSIDE of the rail [on the far side from the rangefinder]. Normally, it was folded down. When used, I turned it up, then moved the lens standard back until it hit the stop.

Graflex did not make any focusing scales for this lens. With a little effort, you could probably make your own on a piece of tape applied to the bed. DOF should work in your favor.

It was usable, but I quickly decided it was too much trouble, so I assembled a Veriwide. Mine was hard to focus at f5.6. Your lens will be even harder. Go for the tape distance scale.

[ This Message was edited by: alecj on 2002-12-28 14:27 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've got a 35mm Apo Grandagon that works fine on a Crown 23 (with rise!), but I've just bought a 5X4 Crown, (it arrived minus inner focusing track!!), but it looks as though the 35mm will just about focus on infinity, but the bellows are completely compressed so no rise possible. I will try my 47mm when the new track arrives from the U.S., and let you know the results!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.K. here we go! The 47mm 5.6 works a treat on the 5x4 Crown. You may need a centre filter to even out the exposure if you use 5x4, but with a RFH there should be no problems. The original bellows don't allow for any movement, but Camera Bellows in Birmingham are making me a new set that should even permit rise with the 35mm (£75.00)!!
Hope that answers the question.

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