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Proposal: Graflex Filter Research Project!

 
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sdorange



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello All,

I've been scouring all the great info on this site for several weeks, ever since I was offered a Crown Graphic from my dad the antiques dealer. Thanks to this site, I was able to say yes and know that I would have access to the info to get things working. It has been a real blast learning about these cameras, I am really hooked!

As a thank you, I'd like to make a contribution to the body of information on accessories - namely filters. The Speed Graphic FAQ says use the Series VI Filter Kit, but what does that mean to a newbie? Which size adapter ring fits your lens? Which lenses take which series of filter?

My proposal is to build a table of the various lenses used by Graflex.org members, and list the Series and adapter ring size needed for each lens. I would be more than happy to compile the data & keep it updated,
but how to get everyone to cough up their filter/adapter info?

Any suggestions /comments would be appreciated. Thanks for considering!

Scott Orange
Seattle, WA
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tbob38



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a chapter about filters etc in the book "Graphic and Graflex Photography".

I have a very nice Wollensak "Sunshade & Filter Adapter" For my 135 Optars. It takes Series VI filters. The lens ring is 1 1/2". Also have a Kodak adapter which is marked 1 1/2" and 38mm.

[ This Message was edited by: tbob38 on 2005-03-20 08:42 ]
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Henry



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of this info for the Optar lenses has already been compiled on the board: see http://www.oresteen.com/optar_lens.htm . Also use the Search feature on the board; enter "filter sizes" to get a long list of relevant threads.
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sdorange



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry,

Thanks for referring me to the Optar chart - the format of that chart data is just perfect! I will search as advised on filter size and see what else I can find, and how much other info can be collected in one easy-to-find place.

tbob38, thanks for sharing your lens data - it's much appreciated!

Best regards,
-- Scott
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zparras



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Scott

Welcome to the wild world of Graflex. I have a owned my Speed Graphic now for over a year and I am also completely hooked by the Graflex bug. I have a copy of Graphic Graflex Photography (1940) with some lens information including filter sizes for popular lenses for Graflex. Also I have some Kodak Lens guides from the 1950's which has filter information for Ektar lenses. I have spent the last few weeks scanning them, if you want I can send you the scans with the filter information. Send me an email and I can send you those files. Take care and have fun with your camera.


Zissis

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RichS



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would this help?




(sorry about the size, but it just wasn't readable any smaller...)


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Henry



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the chart, Rich! Is it from a Graflex source? It's interesting as much for what it omits as what it includes. For example, no listings for the 65mm Optar or the 101mm Optar lenses! And I can't tell whether that 101 listed is "Graflar" or "Graftar," but my Graftar takes a 31.5mm slip-ring (same as the 101 Optar).
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sdorange



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich, that is a killer chart! I agree with Henry, if you can ID the source that would be great info. In the meantime, I will "assimilate into the collective" %v)

So far I'm pulling together some good stuff, including relevant info from Graphic Graflex Photography, which shows which Series is needed for which size lens diameter. Ansel Adams' the negative also has some info worth including.

Henry, once all this great info is collected, how do I go about submitting it to Graflex.org?

Many thanks to all for your support, and please continue to share all this great stuff!

-- Scott
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RichS



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chart is from a Graflex sales and pricing catalog from ~1964 -> 1967 or so. Many individual sections are not dated. There's a lot of good info in the assortment of sheets, but unfortunately nothing on the two specific pieces I was looking for... Just my luck

Just checked, the 101 is a Graflar and the sheet is dated from 1964. I think there's at least one other lens chart. I'll go looking for those other lenses...


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Henry



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, the 65mm Optar takes a 33mm slip-ring (although I had to enlarge that slightly with the Dremel tool for a good fit), and the 101 Optar takes a 31.5mm slip-ring.
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mr.voigtlander



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any info on filters for the Cooke Kodak 6-inch f4.5 lens found on the Graflex series B camera?

Does anyone even know if the thread inside the front of the lens is metric or imperial?

Thanks,
Mr.Voigtlander
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sdorange



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I don't hvae any information on this one, but how about calling Pacific Rim Camera? There's a strong possibility they can help.

Regards,
-- Scott
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Henry



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting (curious?) that the chart, though presumably a Graflex document, lists neither the 65 nor the 105 Optars! The 65 takes a 33 mm slip-ring, though mine would not fit without modification, and the 105 of course takes the ever-popular 31.5 mm slip-ring.
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pv17vv



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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use the Series VI Filter Kit, but what does that mean to a newbie?


Scott,

You might be interested to read the following list, courtesy Kodak Reference Handbook ©1944 :

Kodak Adapter Rings

Series V

For lenses with outside lens-mount diameter from 3/4 to 1 3/16 in

3/4in - 19mm
13/16 - 20.5
7/8 - 22
15/16 - 23.5
1 - 25
1 1/32 - 26
1 1/16 - 27
1 1/8 - 28.5
1 3/16 - 30

Series VI

For lenses with outside lens-mount diameter from 1 1/4 to 1 21/32 in

1 1/4in - 31.5mm
1 5/16 - 33
1 5/8 - 35
1 13/32 - 35.5
1 7/16 - 36.5
1 15/32 - 37
1 1/2 - 38
1 9/16 - 39.5
1 5/8 - 41
1 21/32 - 42

Series VII

For lenses with outside lens-mount diameter from 1 11/16 to 2 in

1 11/16in - 42.5mm
1 3/4 - 44.5
1 13/16 - 46
1 7/8 - 47.5
1 15/16 - 49
2 - 50.5

Series VIII

For lenses with outside lens-mount diameter from 2 1/16 to 2 5/8 in

2 1/16in - 52mm
2 1/8 - 54
2 3/16 - 55.5
2 1/4 - 57
2 5/16 - 58.5
2 3/8 - 60
2 7/16 - 62
2 1/2 - 63.5
2 6/8 - 67

If no Adapter Ring listed provides an exact fit, select the next larger listed size (within 1/32-inch).

Enjoy…

Georges
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mopar_guy



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that it is posted elsewhere on this board but I will include it in this thread:

Graflex Super D 3-1/4x4-1/4 with the 152mm f4.5 Ektar takes a Series VII 1-11/16 inch adapter.
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